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Celebrites and thier Views on the War
« on: April 04, 2003, 12:21:23 am »
As i have told some of my friends, I could careless what opinions celebrities have on this war, for anything happening in the world.

Do your job, sing your song, act your act, and get off the stage.

When I heard about the crap the Dixie Chics said about Bush, i could careless. If they made a song about it, i just wouldnt listen to it. Banning thier music was a little much of ya ask me.

anyway, here is a long arse QUOTE from a thread in another Forum. It was sent in by email to the guy who posted it, so i dont know the author. Like i said, it is very long, but it makes a good point.

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The Hollywood group is at it again. Holding anti-war
rallies, screaming about the Bush Administration,
running ads in major newspapers, defaming the
President and his Cabinet every chance they get, to
anyone and everyone who will listen. They publicly
defile them and call them names like "stupid" ,
"morons", and "idiots". Jessica Lange went so far as
to tell a crowd in Spain that she hates President Bush
and is embarrarseed to be an American.

So, just how ignorant are these people who are running
the country? Let's look at the biographies of these
"stupid", "ignorant" , "moronic" leaders, and then at
the celebrities who are castigating them:

President George W. Bush: Received a Bachelors Degree
from Yale University and an MBA from Harvard Business
School. He served as an F-102 pilot for the Texas Air
National Guard. He began his career in the oil and gas
business in Midland in 1975 and worked in the energy
industry until 1986. He was elected Governor on
November 8, 1994, with 53.5 percent of the vote. In a
historic re-election victory, he became the first
Texas Governor to be elected to consecutive four-year
terms on November 3, 1998 winning 68.6 percent of the
vote. In 1998 Governor Bush won 49 percent of the
Hispanic vote, 27 percent of the African-American
vote, 27 percent of Democrats and 65 percent of women.
He won more Texas counties, 240 of 254, than any
modern Republican other than Richard Nixon in 1972 and
is the first Republican gubernatorial candidate to win
the heavily Hispanic and Democratic border counties
of El Paso, Cameron and Hidalgo. (Someone began
circulating a false story about his I.Q. being lower
than any other President. If you believed it, you
might want to go to URBANLEGENDS.COM and see the
truth.

Vice President disong Cheney: Earned a B.A. in 1965 and
a M.A. in 1966, both in political science. Two years
later, he won an American Political Science
arseociation congressional fellowship. One of Vice
President Cheney's primary duties is to share with
individuals, members of Congress and foreign leaders,
President Bush's vision to strengthen our economy,
secure our homeland and win the War on Terrorism. In
his official role as President of the Senate, Vice
President Cheney regularly goes to Capital
Hill to meet with Senators and members of the House of
Representatives to work on the Administration's
legislative goals. In his travels as Vice President,
he has seen first hand the great demands the war on
terrorism is placing on the men and women of our
military, and he is proud of the tremendous job they
are doing for the United States of America.

Secretary of State Colin Powell: Educated in the New
York City public schools, graduating from the City
College of New York (CCNY), where he earned a
Bachelor's Degree in geology. He also participated in
ROTC at CCNY and received a commission as an Army
second lieutenant upon graduation in June 1958. His
further academic achievements include a Master of
Business Administration Degree from George Washington
University. Secretary Powell is the recipient of
numerous U.S. and foreign military awards and
decorations. Secretary Powell's civilian awards
include two Presidential Medals of Freedom, the
President's Citizens Medal, the Congressional Gold
Medal, the Secretary of State Distinguished Service
Medal, and the Secretary of Energy Distinguished
Service Medal. Several schools and other institutions
have been named in his honor and he holds honorary
degrees from universities and colleges across the
country. (Note: He retired as Four Star General in the
United States Army.)

Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld: Attended
Princeton University on Scholarship (AB, 1954) and
served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as a Naval aviator;
Congressional arseistant to Rep. Robert Griffin (R-MI),
1957-59; U.S. Representative, Illinois, 1962-69;
arseistant to the President, Director of the Office of
Economic Opportunity, Director of the Cost of Living
Council, 1969-74; U.S. Ambarseador to NATO, 1973-74;
head of Presidential Transition Team, 1974; arseistant
to the President, Director of White House Office of
Operations, White House Chief of Staff, 1974-77;
Secretary of Defense, 1975-77.

Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge: Raised in a
working clarse family in veterans' public housing in
Erie. He earned a scholarship to Harvard, graduating
with honors in 1967. After his first year at The
Dickinson School of Law, he was drafted into the U.S.
Army, where he served as an infantry staff sergeant in
Vietnam, earning the Bronze Star for Valor. After
returning to Pennsylvania, he earned his Law Degree
and was in private practice before becoming arseistant
District Attorney in Erie County. He was elected to
Congress in 1982. He was the first enlisted Vietnam
combat veteran elected to the U.S. House, and was
overwhelmingly re-elected six times.

National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice: Earned her
Bachelor's Degree in Political Science, Cum Laude and
Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974;
her Master's from the University of Notre Dame in
1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of
International Studies at the University of Denver in
1981. (Note: Rice enrolled at the University of Denver
at the age of 15, graduating at 19 with a Bachelor's
Degree in
Political Science (Cum Laude). She earned a Master's
Degree at the University of Notre Dame and a Doctorate
from the University of Denver's Graduate School of
International Studies. Both of her advanced degrees
are also in Political Science.) She is a Fellow of the
American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has been
awarded Honorary Doctorates
from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of
Alabama in 1994, and the University of Notre Dame in
1995. At Stanford, she has been a member of the Center
for International Security and Arms Control, a Senior
Fellow of the Institute for International Studies, and
a Fellow (by courtesy) of the Hoover Institution. Her
books include Germany Unified and Europe Transformed
(1995) with Philip Zelikow, The Gorbachev Era (1986)
with Alexander Dallin, and Uncertain Allegiance: The
Soviet Union and the Czechoslovak Army (1984). She
also has written numerous articles on Soviet and East
European foreign and defense policy, and has addressed
audiences in settings ranging from the U.S.
Ambarseador's Residence in Moscow to the Commonwealth
Club to the 1992 and 2000 Republican National
Conventions. From 1989 through March 1991, the period
of German reunification and the final days of the
Soviet Union, she served in the Bush Administration as
Director, and then Senior Director, of Soviet and East
European Affairs in the National Security Council, and
a Special arseistant to the President for National
Security Affairs. In 1986, while an international
affairs fellow of the Council on Foreign Relations,
she served as Special arseistant to the Director of the
Joint Chiefs of Staff. In 1997, she served on the
Federal Advisory Committee on Gender -- Integrated
Training in the Military. She was a member of the
boards of directors for the Chevron Corporation, the
Charles Schwab Corporation, the William and Flora
Hewlett Foundation, the University of Notre Dame, the
International Advisory Council of J.P. Morgan and the
San Francisco Symphony Board of Governors. She was a
Founding Board member of the Center for a New
Generation, an educational support fund for schools in
East Palo Alto and East Menlo Park, California and was
Vice President of the Boys and Girls Club of the
Peninsula. In addition, her past board service has
encomparseed such organizations as Transamerica
Corporation, Hewlett Packard, the Carnegie
Corporation, Carnegie Endowment or International
Peace, The Rand Corporation, the National Council for
Soviet and East European Studies, the Mid-Peninsula
Urban Coalition and KQED, public broadcasting for San
Francisco. Born November 14, 1954 in Birmingham, Al
abama, she resides in Washington, D.C.

So who are these celebrities? What is their education?
What is their experience in affairs of State or in
National Security? While I will defend to the death
their right to express their opinions, I think that if
they are going to call into question the intelligence
of our leaders, we should also have all the facts on
their educations and background:
Barbra Streisand : Completed high school
Career: Singing and acting

Cher: Dropped out of school in 9th grade.
Career: Singing and acting

Martin Sheen: Flunked exam to enter University of
Dayton.
Career: Acting

Jessica Lange: Dropped out college mid-freshman year.
Career: Acting

Alec Baldwin: Dropped out of George Washington U.
after scandal.
Career: Acting

Julia Roberts: Completed high school.
Career: Acting
Sean Penn: Completed High school.
Career: Acting
Susan Sarandon: Degree in Drama from Catholic
University of America in Washington, D.C.
Career: Acting

Ed Asner; Completed High school.
Career: Acting

George Clooney: Dropped out of University of
Kentucky.
Career: Acting

Michael Moore: Dropped out first year University of
Michigan.
Career: Movie Director

Sarah Jessica Parker: Completed High School.
Career: Acting

Jennifer Anniston: Completed High School.
Career: Acting

Mike Farrell: Completed High school.
Career: Acting

Janeane Garofelo: Dropped out of College.
Career: Stand up comedienne

Larry Hagman: Attended Bard College for one year.
Career: Acting

While comparing the education and experience of these
two groups, we should also remember that President
Bush and his cabinet are briefed daily, even hourly,
on the War on Terror and threats to our security. They
are privy to information gathered around the world
concerning the Middle East, the threats to America,
the intentions of terrorists and
terrorist-supporting governments. They are in constant
communication with the CIA, the FBI, Interpol, NATO,
The United Nations, our own military, and that of our
allies around the world.

We cannot simply believe that we have full knowledge
of the threats because we watch CNN!! We cannot
believe that we are in any way as informed as our
leaders.

These celebrities have no intelligence-gathering
agents, no fact-finding groups, no insight into the
minds of those who would destroy our country. They
only have a deep seated hatred for all things
Republican. By nature, and no one knows quite why, the
Hollywood elitists detest Conservative views and
anything that supports or uplifts the United States of
America. The silence was deafening from the Left when
Bill Clinton bombed a pharmaceutical factory outside
of Khartoum, or when he attacked the Bosnian Serbs in
1995 and 1999. He bombed Serbia itself to get Slobodan
Milosevic out of Kosovo, and not a single peace rally
was held. When our Rangers were ambushed in Somalia
and 18 young American lives were lost, not a peep was
heard from Hollywood. Yet now, after our
nation has been attacked on its own soil, after 3,000
Americans were killed, by freedom-hating terrorists,
while going about their routine lives, they want to
hold rallies against the war. Why the change?

Because an honest, God-fearing Republican sits in the
White House.

Another irony is that in 1987, when Ronald Reagan was
in office, the Hollywood group aligned themselves with
disarmament groups like SANE, FREEZE and PEACE ACTION,
urging our own government to disarm and freeze the
manufacturing of any further nuclear weapons, in order
to promote world peace. It is curious that now, even
after we have heard all the evidence that Saddam
Hussein has chemical, biological and is very close to
obtaining nuclear weapons, their is no cry from this
group for HIM to disarm. They believe we should leave
him alone in his quest for these weapons of marse
destruction, even though it is certain that these
deadly weapons will eventually be used against us in
our own cities.

So why the hype out of Hollywood? Could these
celebrities believe that since they draw such
astronomical salaries, they are entitled to also
determine the course of our Nation? That they can make
viable decisions concerning war and peace? Did Michael
Moore have the backing of the Nation when he recently
thanked France, on our behalf, for being a "good
enough friend to tell us we were wrong"? I know for
certain he was not speaking for me. Does Sean Penn
fancy himself a Diplomat, in going to Iraq when we are
just weeks away from war? Does he believe that his
High School Diploma gives him the knowledge (and the
right) to go to a country that is controlled by a
maniacal dictator, and speak on behalf of the American
people? Or is it the fact that he pulls in more money
per year than the average American worker will see in
a lifetime? Does his bank account give him clout?

The ultimate irony is that many of these celebrities
have made a shambles of their own lives, with drug
abuse, alcoholism, numerous marriages and divorces,
scrapes with the law, publicized temper tantrums, etc.
How dare they pretend to know what is best for an
entire nation! What is even more bizarre is how many
people in this country will listen and
accept their views, simply because they liked them in
a certain movie, or have fond memories of an old
television sitcom!

It is time for us, as citizens of the United States,
to educate ourselves about the world around us. If
future generations are going to enjoy the freedoms
that our forefathers bequeathed us, if they are ever
to know peace in their own country and their world, to
live without fear of terrorism striking in their own
cities, we must arseure that this nation
remains strong. We must make certain that those who
would destroy us are made aware of the severe
consequences that will befall them.

Yes, it is a wonderful dream to sit down with
dictators and terrorists and join hands, singing
Cumbaya and talking of world peace. But it is not
real. We did not stop Adolf Hitler from taking over
the entire continent of Europe by simply talking to
him. We sent our best and brightest, with the strength
and determination that this Country is known for, and
defeated the **** regime. President John F. Kennedy
did not stop the Soviet ships from unloading their
nuclear missiles in Cuba in 1962 with mere words. He
stopped them with action, and threat of immediate war
if the ships did not turn around. We did not end the
Cold War with conferences. It ended with the strong
belief of President Ronald Reagan... PEACE through
STRENGTH.

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